Episode 3, Take 3
(episode 3)
JAMIE: It’s The Broadly Entertaining Podcast. We've got fun, games and feminism coming at ya. Thanks for letting us entertain you!
[playful ukulele theme music]
GIANA: Welcome to The Broadly Entertaining Podcast. I am Giana and I sure found feminism in a weird place this month. Joining me on this broadcasting journey is my business partner and dear friend who's probably eager to introduce herself…
JAMIE: Oh, am I ever! Thank you, Giana. I am Jamie and I have quarters on the brain. This is The Broadly Entertaining Podcast for all of you Femme Broads, Them Broads and Dude Broads out there. Let’s party!
[ukulele theme reprise with whistling]
GIANA: It is always a party in here. Episode 3!
JAMIE: Yes! I am proud of us.
GIANA: Me too. We will be up to episode three hundred, though, before you know it.
JAMIE: Ugh, before you know it. I will ignore the math of that based on our current trajectory and just say, hell yeah!
GIANA: [laughing] Hell yeah! Gotta have that future facing optimism. We've already gotten some helpful and supportive feedback from listeners, which is amazing…
JAMIE: It's wonderful! You know I can be a bit of a Donnie Downer sometimes, but it has definitely been a joy and a mental health boost knowing that we get this time together every month.
GIANA: Aww… and sometimes [giggling], multiple times a month just for one single episode.
JAMIE: Ah yes yes, the re-records. Listeners may notice that I might sound a little different in this episode, possibly like I'm being recorded over a telephone line—
GIANA: And if you can't, we will just edit that part out.
JAMIE: [laughs] True story, true story. Well I am using different headphones than usual. It is April 15—what up tax day!
GIANA: Woo woo!
JAMIE: —and I am on a road trip. Shout out to my parents, I’m at their house right now.
GIANA: Oh, Sheila and Mark! I love Sheila and Mark.
JAMIE: They're wonderful.
GIANA: They are. Very supportive of the Broadly Entertaining.
JAMIE: 100% supportive; we are the only podcast my mother follows [they laugh]. So I'm on this road trip, and I did not bring my giant podcast gamer headphones.
GIANA: But not for a lack of preparedness, though.
JAMIE: No. Thank you.
GIANA: [laughs] Sure, yeah, I'm gonna let everyone know. After all this is the third time we are recording this particular third episode. The most times for any one episode so far.
JAMIE: Yes, well, you know, podcasting does not begin with perfection, friends. Does not.
GIANA: You see, our usual schedule so far has been just recording it on the first Friday of the month and then releasing it on the last Friday of the month, and we use that time in between to edit the audio or produce written transcripts, complete an outline for the next one, so on. We had to re-record a segment or two for the first episode and the second episode went really long, which required a lot of cutting—
JAMIE: But the third episode! The third episode was so ready for one good take. We shortened the outline, came in just under half an hour when we first recorded on April 5 (which was not the first Friday, our calendar savants might notice). The energy was great, we thought we had all the audio settings in place, and there turned out to be one insurmountable hurdle.
GIANA: [in a purposefully strained, raspy voice] I maybe got a little excited.
[Jamie laughs]
GIANA (cont’d): My track was very loud and started distorting, which— There's nothing you can really do about that other than re-record, so another take was unavoidable.
JAMIE: Yeah, but luckily we roll with the punches and having a good rehearsal under our belt only made the second take even more tight and entertaining. And I would love to hear that take and share it with all of you—
GIANA: Me too, I would, too!
JAMIE: Yeah. Unfortunately there is a ghost in the machine.
GIANA: Zoom vanished the recording like it was Amelia Earhart.
JAMIE: Too soon? Not too soon…
GIANA: I mean… No.
JAMIE: So here we are, episode 3 take 3, recording on April 15 and sharing some insights into our process.
GIANA: Meanwhile you and I get in a larger dash of performance together, hopefully learning a little bit more every time something goes awry.
JAMIE: So much learning.
GIANA: Look at us! Learning and growing and getting our groove.
JAMIE: Yeah, cheers to that! You know, in addition to all the learning we're doing just through the podcast, I bet we both have a couple examples of notable things that we have learned just like, through life in general—
GIANA: Learning and grooving, Jamie. We’ve got a lot of groove going. We’re the grooviest.
JAMIE: Oh, sure. Sure. How dare I leave out the groove.
GIANA: How dare you leave out the groove! Arguably the most important part of it all. But I will take that bet, or rather I agree with you which isn't exactly how betting works—
JAMIE: Yeah, people do not come to me for gambling advice but I believe you are correct. So, what is something that you have learned or changed your opinion about over time?
GIANA: I remember that when I was younger I thought that it was imperative that every outfit would be paired with a pair of high heels which is bullshit—
JAMIE: Every outfit?!
GIANA: Well, I mean a lot of outfits.
JAMIE: Sorry to interrupt, but that is—
GIANA: I know, it’s a lot. I wore heels very often because— I mean I’m average height, I'm 5’4”. Not a big deal, but I definitely thought that like, going out and clubbing and partying, or just going out to a bar at all, meant that I should be wearing heels for them calves and butt lift. I was positive that the outfit would be completely destroyed otherwise. And the moral of the story is that I was in my fuckin’ prime, man, and that I would have been able to get laid with or without those high-heeled shoes! I could have been wearing Chucks or Doc Martins or whatever it was that I wanted to wear that were flat and comfortable, and it would've been fine. But no no no. I decided to have many years of ankle crushing high heel outfits, and I'm glad that’s behind me now.
JAMIE: Indeed. And for what it's worth, I think you're in your prime now.
GIANA: Aw, thanks buddy [laughs].
JAMIE: Yeah, I got you! Absolutely! What do we know in our 20s?
GIANA: Nothin’.
JAMIE: What do we know at all.
GIANA: Nothin’.
JAMIE: I remember when I was younger—even a bit younger than that, ya know, pre-period younger—I thought that getting my period was just the greatest thing that was ever going to happen to me at the time, and then eventually I did get my period. I was almost 16. And then eventually, after that, I got it regularly, and now I know how lucky I was to start late. With any luck I will start menopause early. Getting your period is just not fun! I mean, I read Are You There, God? It’s Me, Margaret. several times as a young person, and I gotta say, Judy Blume left out a lot of menstrual truths. I get that the book was published in 1970 and it was groundbreaking at the time, but still, you know, I just, I wish I had a little more insight into what getting my period was actually going to be like— Not that that’s all on Judy Blume’s shoulders.
GIANA: Sure, no. You can’t just blame her. She's a product of the same society that we are.
JAMIE: Mm.
GIANA: Mm. Mm mm mm! / JAMIE: Mm.
GIANA: Mm!
[Jamie laughs]
GIANA (cont’d): Youth, huh?
JAMIE: Ugh, I tell ya. That impatience to be an adult, the desire to define adulthood through fashion rules… Both true wastes of energy.
GIANA: And if only we knew it at the time! Though I am still learning some lessons about, at least, staying true to myself and my tastes. For example I've been hosting this house concert series up here in the Catskills, and the house band that I have is called Dem Chonies. It's just me and my buddy Adrian and Todd and this guy Chris Dyas, and we are all playing together and those three are just hardcore badass professional musicians and have been their entire life, and I'm sort of newish to the ukulele and newish to trying to explore a strictly-musical-not-theatrical-musical situation. They’ve been very sweet and patient with me during this process and just saying yes to everything I am saying which is amazing. My taste and my talent mean something to these people that have way more experience than I do on the matter, and so trusting my taste and trusting what I like and that people will like it with me is something kind of new to me. I've always been catering to others or saying, “Oh my gosh, you have so much more experience. Let me just follow you, I will be your student, I will be whatever,” and it's nice, it's refreshing to be like, “Shit, no, man. You have taste, you have your own ideas, and people will like them with you.”
JAMIE: Yeah, hell yeah! It is of course nice to have supportive friends who recognize that, as well. They are all very talented musicians and I am so excited to come see a Dem Chonies house concert one day as soon as I can! I will say that I sure followed your taste right into Bingo. [Giana laughs] Sure did. I know it was not my favorite game to host back when we started this whole thing, this whole Broadly Entertaining thing, but working with you and watching your badass self call Bingo has definitely upped my game at the cage. The Bingo cage.
GIANA: Nice.
JAMIE: Not a batting cage, I got no game in a batting cage.
GIANA: No.
JAMIE: But anyway, you're a badass Bingo caller.
GIANA: You flatter. I appreciate it, and Bingo— it’s tough, I can't blame you for not enjoying it right away; it's listing numbers for two hours. It’s tough.
JAMIE: [laughs] Well you are the Broadly Entertaining Bingo master. You make listing numbers fun, and actually I would like, perhaps stupidly, to challenge you to a Bingo Lingo showdown.
GIANA: Oh! A showdown you say. It’s on! One to seventy-five?
JAMIE: Or until one of us gets three strikes. Whichever comes first. Three second time limit per turn?
GIANA: Plenty of time. That's the rule; plenty. You want to Rock Paper Scissors to see who goes first?
JAMIE: Yeah, let's do it. You want to call it out?
GIANA: OK— Rock, Paper, Scissors, Shoot!
Ooh, two scissors. We’re just scissoring each other virtually right now, listeners. That’s exciting. [Jamie laughs] Alright, here we go— Three, two, one, shoot! Ooh! Jamie’s paper covers Giana’s rock, which means you get to choose. Are you going first or second?
JAMIE: Oh, I'll kick it off! Let's kick it off, here we go— B1, the ball that started it all, B1
GIANA: B2, R2-D2, B2
JAMIE: B3, you and me, B3, climb a tree, B3, fiddle-ee-dee-dee-deeee
GIANA: I need your help on this one. Beeee— the call and response ball— B4…
JAMIE: …and after! Which brings us to B5, high five! B5 B5
GIANA: B6, bag o’ dicks
JAMIE: B7 minutes in heaven (oooh!)
GIANA: B8, I’m on a date
JAMIE: B9, don't worry friends, don't worry, this one is B9
GIANA: B10, cluck like a hen
JAMIE: [clucks] B11, B11, skinny legs, two legs in bed, B11
GIANA: B12, take your vitamins, B12
JAMIE: B13, B13, unlucky for some, lucky for others, most people just don't give a damn, B13
GIANA: B14, I was so awkward, small boobs and big teeth, B14 [Jamie laughs]
JAMIE: B15, B15, the highest B on the board, the end of that column, B15
GIANA: I16, the Sound of Music ball, [sings] I am 16 going on— 16
JAMIE: Going on 17, I17, the dancing queen
GIANA: I18, I'm legal, take me to the polls… to vote!
JAMIE: I19, goodbye teens, it’s been real! I19
GIANA: Helloooo twenties, I20
JAMIE: I21, legal shot time, I21. Shot shot shot shot shot shot shot shot shot shots!
GIANA: [laughing] I22, the double duck. I two-two, I two-two; also the ballerina ball
JAMIE: I23 and me, also nobody likes you when you're 23. That’s not true, I’m sure you’ve got friends. I23
GIANA: I24, the Hope Morawa ball even though I'm pretty sure she's turning 30 this month, but happy early birthday, or maybe it's right on time, I'm not entirely sure, but happy birthday Hope Morawa, happy 30th
JAMIE: Yeah! I 25, I25, the quarter century, quarter life crisis ball, I25, it's a quarter, is my point
GIANA: I26, that's some double dicks, right there
JAMIE: Oh damn, watch out for that. I27, rock and roll Rest In Peace club, I27
GIANA: I28 I— got nothing for 28. Strike one for Giana!
JAMIE: Oooh! Strike one, strike one! I will pick it up; I28, how about a double date? I28, a double date
GIANA: I29… Oh no, I did it again!
JAMIE: Oh no!
GIANA: Strike two, I29, for Giana
JAMIE: Uh, I29… Yeah, that's a tough one, I got nothing. I29
GIANA: Alright. Alright, we got one against two.
JAMIE: So let’s pick it up at 30. You go.
GIANA: I30, what a party, I30. I had a great one, how about you?
JAMIE: I31 I'm having fun, right now, I31. Ooh! Sorry, N31. N31.
GIANA: N31. N32, how about you? [laughing] N32
JAMIE: N33, the double butts, the Tina Belcher ball, N33
GIANA: N34, the worst street in Manhattan, N34
JAMIE: N35, a rhyme to keep it alive, N35 [Giana laughs]
GIANA: N36, that's a triple bag of dicks, right there
JAMIE: Oh my god! N37, I can't even handle that! I got nothing, N37
GIANA: Ooh! Two against two strikes. Here we go, N37 that's a butt and a crutch
JAMIE: Ha haa! Sure is, sure is. N38, is it a throuple date? N38
GIANA: N39, goodbye thirties, N39
JAMIE: N40, it’s a bingo pawrty!
GIANA: Woo hoo hooo! / JAMIE: Yeaah!
GIANA: N41… aaaand that is all I got. That is strike three for Giana!
JAMIE: Ooh no! / GIANA: It wasn’t—
JAMIE: I beat you!
GIANA: You totally beat me! It wasn’t stupid to challenge me at all. You won.
[Jamie laughs]
GIANA (cont’d): That leads us to, possibly still our favorite ongoing segment…
[BE A FEMINIST jingle]
JAMIE: Yeah! Giana and I get to bring some news, reviews from the week, things that we recently learned—whatever!—to share with each other and all of you. Things that fall under the general umbrella of feminism. Giana, I believe it is your turn to go first this time…
GIANA: It is. My BE a Feminist morsel this episode actually comes from a very strange place. It comes from, A) another podcast that's not our own, and B) it’s hosted by three dudes, and C) they were interviewing yet another dude while this tidbit came up. It was the podcast SmartLess and they were interviewing Michael Moore about new Canadian gun laws. They were saying part of the background checks when trying to acquire a handgun for a male is to then check in with all of the women in their life—wives, ex-wives, mistresses, girlfriends, ex-girlfriends—to all sort of get approval for this one man to get a handgun. They talk about his violent past if he— All of those things, and they figure the women in his life would know, and I find that really interesting. I really wonder how it would go over in this country, but I'd also like to know more on the details and how they kind of skirted that into existence.
JAMIE: Yeah. I would love to get confirmation that that is in fact accurate, and then, you know, down the line just sort of see how that changes the statistics of gun violence and gun ownership and, you know, toxic male shootings.
GIANA: Mm hmm.
JAMIE: And we know women use guns. The gun problem is not strictly— the gun problem in America specifically, especially, is not strictly around men and guns but toxic masculinity plays a big role in a lot of the big news shootings that we have all heard of. If there was a woman in their life that was just like, “No, they were shitty to me in a relationship,” or, “I have seen them kick a dog,” or whatever the thing is— Oh god, what a difference that would make.
GIANA: Mm hmm. And this is happening in a country that has a lot of guns and a lot less violence with them, so you're right, I wonder— It's interesting to see how it would work in a country where there’s already a social understanding, or a social vibe at least, that caters to less violence, anyway. So it's interesting to see that, like, they already had the societal structure to even think up a process like this, whereas our societal structure in this country doesn't seem to lend toward that even being a possibility, or something that anybody would even think about it. Which is kind of what they talk about in this episode and you can catch it— I mean, I hate to advertise a very popular podcast on our own podcast but it’s interesting news, so, you can skip right to it. Minute 15 second 15 is somewhere around where they start talking about the Canadian, new Canadian handgun laws, so, go ahead and give it a listen. And if you do your own research and you find something for us, send it over! We’d love to hear it.
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JAMIE: Yes! 100%. And we’ll link to the episode in our show notes—
GIANA: Of course.
JAMIE: —so people can hop on over, easily.
GIANA: Yeah!
JAMIE: Now I do I get to tell you my BE a Feminist nugget?!
GIANA: Yes! I was just gonna say, I’m done you go.
JAMIE: Alright, well— [ukulele ends with a flourish] Mine is about women on money. Yes, women are going to be on more money in the United States over the coming three years. The U.S. Mint is starting a new series of quarters. There was the state quarter series where every state had an image on the back. Well from 2023 to 2025 there will be 15 quarters with women on the flipside. Technically the tail side of the coin. It will be interesting, though, because there will be a head on both sides, both sides of the quarters. I say we make the women the heads, and Washington the tails—
GIANA: Obviously.
JAMIE: —that’s my take on that one. But, you know—
GIANA: But you’re much more adaptable than most people, I would say. [Jamie laughs] I think it would be very difficult for somebody just to be like, “Let's drop everything I've known about coin tosses…!”—
JAMIE: Mmm...
GIANA: —and do this.
JAMIE: I mean, I'd be curious how many coin tosses are actually still happening out in the world—
GIANA: The football! / JAMIE: —but we digress.
GIANA: In the sportsballs! They—
JAMIE: Oh, in the sportsballs, yeah they’re— That’s gonna be the toughest one. They're gonna be like, “No new quarters, we just can't, just can't do it.”
GIANA: I mean, I could be wrong about this because it’s football and I don't know a lot about football, but I think it's like a special coin.
JAMIE: I believe that. I don't know it for sure—
GIANA: Me either. Nope.
JAMIE: Also not a big fan of the balls [laughs].
GIANA: Tell us more about the official coins out there, you sports nerds.
JAMIE: Yes. We have gotten off track. So it’s, you know, I understand that it's complicated living in a capitalist society. Capitalism, not flawless to say the least, but seeing women on money, which is very much a source of power in our culture, is important for other women and young girls and boys growing up, to see people like Bessie Coleman who was the first African American woman and the first Native American woman to get a pilot’s license in the United States. Native Hawaiian hula teacher Edith Kanaka‘ole, she's going to be on the back of a quarter next year. Eleanor Roosevelt is going to be on the back of a quarter, so, you know, a first lady. It’s been a lot of presidents, and Benjamin Franklin is on money; he was never a president. There are 15 women, I won’t list them all, but it is a wonderful mix of people from different backgrounds, activists, artists. Everyone out there probably knows that Maya Angelou is going to be on a quarter; I know that was the most popular bit of news, at least in circles that I travel in, a month or so ago, that Maya Angelou is getting a quarter. So it is very cool that there are going to be multiple women from multiple backgrounds with multiple effects and relationships to American culture and history. You know we've had a couple, there was a Susan B. Anthony, there was a Sacagawea, but this is going to be a series. So coin collectors out there keep an eye out, get your kids into it. And yeah, women on quarters, I’m excited to see it.
GIANA: Yay! Show me the money!
JAMIE: Mm. Amen.
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GIANA: Well, thank you all for tuning in. Check the show notes for links, a transcript of this episode, or more information on Broadly Entertaining events and offerings mentioned in today’s show.
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JAMIE: Bye!
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