Dumpster Diving with Eva Radke

(episode 11)

Giana: It's The Broadly Entertaining Podcast for all you Femme Broads, Them Broads, and Dude Broads out there. Thank you for letting us entertain you.

Jamie: We've got fun, games and feminism coming at you. Happy New Year. Let's party.

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Jamie: Hello friends! I am Jamie, and I would like to offer you a clitoral correction.

Giana: And I am Giana, and I want to be more thoughtful about gatherings this year and perhaps all years.

Happy fucking New Year. I am coming in hot.

Jamie: Yes. And from a whole different location, I noticed.

Giana: Yes, I am in my hometown of Reno, Nevada. I am here to direct a musical with my childhood bestie Malary, for Reed High School.

Jamie: Oh, that's exciting. What musical are you directing?

Giana: Well, funny you should ask, Jamie. It just so happens to be the 10-year anniversary since the last time I was here directing Les Misérables!

Jamie: Ten years.

Giana: Ten years, I know. And ten years ago when I did it for the first time, it was the ten-year anniversary of the school doing it. So, this year we're gonna have a concert at the end of the run that involves all three generations of cast members, and celebrating and having 'em all on wood stage, which is really, really cool.

Jamie: That's fun. I cannot wait to hear all about it, and see it. I don’t know if there's gonna be a chance for me to see it if I can't be live in Reno, but I will definitely want to hear all about it.

I also want to hear all about what you did for your New Year's Eve celebration. It is early January right now. Happy New Year!

Giana: Happy New Year.

Jamie: Yeah. And I don’t know what you did, so tell me!

Giana: Well, both my husband and I have decided to kind of take a break on the booze for a little while. We want to see if we can experience all of the big yearly celebrations and all of that stuff without the booze tied to it. So this was actually my first New Year's in my adult-ish life that I wasn't, you know, hammered and partying. So, of course I was in bed by 10PM. That's what I did on New Year’s Eve.

However, on New Year's Day, I took a page from our mutual friends, Sara B and Chris P, and hosted a New Year's Day double feature movie at my cabin. I'd put about a month of thought into this. I had invited everybody that was kind of near us and we decided, instead of trying to put the booze in the focus of every party, which is kind of how things are; it's like, “Yeah, come over to my house, bring a handle and we'll have a great time.” And it always is kind of centered around the fact that booze is gonna be there to save us from any social awkwardness.

But this time we were trying to just think a little bit more thoroughly through our gatherings, why we gather and how we gather with our friends? Even for these, you know, kind of what people would think is like throwaway hangouts. So I created a really cozy floor space. I created a popcorn bar with three different popcorn bases and a bunch of seasonings. Everyone had their own personalized paper bag that had their name on it so they could make their own mixes of popcorn. I had hot cider on a slow cooker upstairs in our living room so that nobody had to go downstairs into the kitchen to re-up on anything. Everyone brought other finger foods and candy and we just sat and snuggled and watched a couple of movies… which I kinda wanted to ask you about, Jamie, because I gave these people four options on a movie and I gave them a vote and they obviously voted to see what they wanted to watch, and I wanted to know what you would vote for.

Jamie: Okay! Can we also ask listeners? I think we can put a poll in the show notes—

Giana: Yes! / Jamie: --and find out what they would watch.

Giana: I would love to ask the listeners. I would love to know what everybody else would want to see.

So, the first option was Snatch and Kung Fu Hustle. The second option was Brazil and The Big Lebowski. The third option was Mary Martin's televised stage performance of Peter Pan, and Life of Brian. And the fourth was the new King Crimson documentary and Mary Queen of Scots.

Each of them had a little theme to them if you didn't notice and if you, if you could pick up on ‘em.

Jamie: I mean, frankly, I would have to go to IMDB ‘cause there are some of these movies that I'm not even sure I know anything about them just from the title.

Giana: Never heard of Brazil. Yeah, yeah. Never heard of Brazil. That was a Colin thing. Anyway. But what would you vote for?

Jamie: Just based on my tendency to be like, I'm gonna watch the same TV show I've already seen eighteen times because it's comforting and I know the characters and what happens. I know Life of Brian and I know that production of Peter Pan, but I haven't seen it in such a long time that I think I would probably choose that just for, like, the comfort and the joy and the nostalgia.

Giana: I wish that you were coming because that was also what Colin and I voted for, but we were the only ones that voted for that one. The majority of votes got Snatch and Kung Fu Hustle, which was not at all a disappointment. I had so much fun I hadn't seen Snatch in forever.

Jamie: That's Guy Ritchie, right?

Giana: I don't know, but Brad Pitt’s in it and—

Jamie: And they're all British or they're all English and like gangsters or something?

Giana: Yes. Yeah, so the first one has a little bit of a gangster theme. Because in Kung Fu Hustle, there's the Axe Gang. But anyway, it was so fun. So that was what, that was what won.

Jamie: Fun! Oh, that sounds lovely. Personalized popcorn bar. Look at you.

Giana: Putting a little more thought, putting a little more thought into my gatherings with friends and I do it a lot. And so why the fuck not?

Jamie: Yeah. Awesome. I didn't put quite as much thought into my—

Giana: Yeah, what did you do?!

Jamie: — New Year's Eve and New Year's hang, but I think that was okay. Wayne was in Austin from Dallas for almost a week. Over a week maybe? Which is like a long stretch for him to be down here and, you know, working less than if he were up in Dallas. So we were able to just like, take time and enjoy each other's company, and I have this very old piece of magical chocolate that has moved around with me through apartments, across the country. It's probably like two and a half years old.

Giana: I can, I think I can visualize what it looks like in my head.

Jamie: The puck, it came in foil, wrapped.

Giana: Yes, I know exactly what— I ate those pucks, also. Those are very old. [laughs]

Jamie: Very old. So we, I mean, I put it on the double boiler on the stovetop, put in new chocolate, added banana. Tried to like, spruce it up a little bit. But it was not incredibly foreplanned. I started doing that at about one in the afternoon and at about four in the afternoon we were leaving to go play mini golf at the Peter Pan Putt Putt.

Giana: Oh!

Jamie: Didn’t even make that connection yet!

Yeah, so we went and we played some mini golf and then we just walked around. It was still pretty early on in the New Year's Eve celebration milieu, so a lot of bars were still kind of empty. We were not trying to go somewhere where there was a cover charge or bracelets or, you know, big party vibes. We were just, yeah, walking around looking for local businesses to support. We found a Mexican place that was doing its soft opening, so we went in and supported a new business, and it was good. The food was really good. Had some chips and queso that were delicious. Wayne had three tacos. I was like, that's too much food for where my tummy is right now.

Giana: Yeah.

Jamie: But I had a margarita. Can always have a margarita, sure.

Giana: Yeah, of course. Yeah.

Jamie: Yeah, and then we just kind of walked around a little bit and made our way back home. Hopped in and out of a couple other bars. One smelled like a dirty mop bucket, so we did not stay there. I could not handle that on a regular sensory day.

And then we were back home and I think we watched a movie, probably. I couldn't even tell you which. Maybe we watched some Schitt's Creek or Bob's Burgers, I don't know.

Giana: Classic.

Jamie: And we were in bed also by like 11ish maybe. I was still awake when all of the fireworks were going off, but I was 100% in bed.

Giana: Yeah! Look at us, all growed up.

Jamie: Yeah... Is that what it is? [laughs]

Giana: No. No, it's not. It's something else. I don’t know what it is, but, look at us!

Well, I don't want to take any more time. I mean, not that I don't enjoy this time with you every time, Jamie, but, I am very excited and psyched for today's guest.

Jamie: Mm-hmm!

Giana: She's a dear, she is saved in my phone as Eva Soulmate, because when we originally met we hit it off so well and just, we had a lot in common and we were just vibing. She is the founder of ArtCube Nation, a social network and professional resource that began as a way for the art departments on film crews to minimize their waste footprint by sharing and reusing sets and prop pieces. I love this woman. I love her business. Please give a warm, warm welcome to Eva Radke to The Broadly Entertaining Podcast.

Eva: I'm so happy to be here! And Jamie, yes, it was Terry Gill—  I'm sorry, it was Terry Gilliam that directed Brazil. Guy Ritchie that directed Snatch. But I'm still trying to put together— Brazil and Big Lebowski would've been my vote, but I want to know what they had in common because— that Terry Gilliam did Brazil, it's dystopian, it's funky, and Big Lebowski...

Giana: Mm-hmm

Eva: I'm gonna be up all night. I'm gonna think of it though. I don't want any hints, but I'm like—

Giana: So I can tell you what I told them when they got their vote. It was number one: murders and gangs and stuff – Snatch and Kung Fu Hustle.

Eva: Okay, okay…

Giana: Number two was: I'm innocent, I swear! The Big Lebowski, Brazil.

Eva: Okay, alright.

Giana: Number three: Far out, man. Let's sing about it, [laughs], and number four: royalty is fabulous and also fucked up.

Eva: Yes! Coming from a Queen. [laughs]

Giana: Yes. Oh God. Hello. Thank you. Thank you so much for being here, Eva, and just being the light of everyone's life.

Eva: Oh, well, my goodness. I'll take it in stride, I suppose.

Giana: You gave me an invite for something fun to do on New Year's. I don't know if you ended up doing that thing, but what was your New Year's like?

Eva: It was fabulous. First of all, I had so many pretty sparkly dresses that were just sitting there from the times, so they were very excited to go out Friday and Saturday and also have a hangover party on Sunday. So I did not take page out of Giana's book at all. I had a great time because I really needed a great time ‘cause I've been busting my hump this year and my dresses needed taking out.

Giana: Yeah.

Eva: They were gonna leave, they were gonna take off. They're like, you don't appreciate us—

Jamie: Gotta treat ‘em right!

Eva: —just sitting here on a hanger like a nothing!

Giana: How dare you.

Eva: I really got dolled up, just day after day, I felt fabulous. It was really super fun. And I went to Gemini and Scorpio Loft which just reopened.

Giana: Awesome.

Eva: It was really, in particular, meaningful to me because the owner of that events company, we met dumpster diving on Men in Black III and became fast friends, and in fact, most everything inside this loft has been from ArtCube or from film that's recycling a previous venture. So it's like this museum of lost props. It's also a beautiful 5,000 square foot loft space where I just sort of, you know, go and do things and, and know things, and it’s familiar. I feel like it's the reuse museum, and it's just great. I was happy to do it.

For the hangover party, it's funny, I had about nine people come over, had my Aunt Lucy's black-eyed peas. She's in Morocco right now with her 20-something lover and she's twenty years older than me — don't do that math! — so it's ‘cause I miss her, and it’s good luck, I made black-eyed peas for my friends, for my Yankee friends. But it's funny, the people who showed up were not hungover. [everyone laughs] None of them, just me. I was like, Oh my God, I'm ripped to shreds. And I'm like, why'd I have a party today?

Jamie: That’s alright, they were there to support you, make sure you had another opportunity to wear something out of your closet that wasn’t getting love.

Eva: I love it when my friends from different parts of my life meet each other and I—  this is not meant to be morbid, but I'm like, Man, is my funeral gonna be fun.

Giana: Fuck Yeah.

Eva: ‘Cause they're, you know, like, what a blast. I'm not getting married again. So there's only one more reason to get the whole entire gang in.

Giana: That's it.

Jamie: Love that. And well, let's go back to this idea of the reuse museum and why that is right up your alley. Let's dive into talking about ArtCube Nation!

Eva: Let's do that.

Jamie: As Giana mentioned earlier, its origins around waste reduction. You just talked about dumpster diving on the set of Men in Black III, so clearly there are a lot of stories. Love that. So, can you give us the founder's version of how you started ArtCube Nation?

Eva: I certainly can, I'll make it succinct. So, I was working on a television commercial and it was one of these jobs that just one miracle after the other I performed. I performed it, I did it, it got there, it was on time, you name it. But then it came to the wrap day, and out of all of these miracles I pulled off, I get— and this is back in 2007, mind you— there was a mid-century credenza that we bought from a SoHo boutique and I thought that I had given it away on Craigslist, ‘cause they wouldn't take it back, the crew couldn't take it, couldn't find a buyer, I had two days to do it, I was in a hurry. And then my Craigslist— before it was creepy, by the way—  but ghosted. Just didn't show up and it was 4:55. In five minutes we were gonna be in OT; it was the only thing left on the stage, and I had the grips toss it in a dumpster, and I think about that mid-century credenza every single day. How is it that I can pull off all of these things? I can get mint plants, hydroponically grown, flown up from Florida and on time and verdant and bushy, but I can't give away a mid-century credenza in New York City? Something is wrong.

So, I had just become a mother at the time. I was on this mommy's group, so I'm like, I'm gonna start my own group of set decorators so we can talk to one another. So it was me and 30 people. I named it ArtCube, named after the art cube truck; a cube truck, you see them everywhere. And we just started talking to one another. I feel like even though I think about that mid-century credenza every single day, it was an inspiration, because now we have diverted hundreds of tons just through this network. It's become part of the culture of ArtCube. Let's give it away. There's no hoarding of resources and it's just, keep this out of a dumpster. So now with the new development, like I am knee deep in active development right now, we are working on ways to make Art Cube Nation an actual organizational tool.

Giana: Awesome!

Eva: Yeah!

Giana: That's so awesome. I was just going to ask you about what's new, because that origin story is so rich and beautiful and juicy and anybody that has been anywhere near any sort of production can feel your pain and know exactly what you're talking about. And, I know that you have a big launch coming up, so like, yeah, let's talk about the juicy future.

Eva: Right. So, here's the deal. I'm baking in an environmental and social solution into a job solution because we need to be organized from the very beginning.

See, if you ever— have you ever talked to a set decorator and asked them to see a picture? They're scrolling past 5,000 couches before they can get to their mom, you know? And all the research photos, they just go to waste. And so if we can organize the sourcing, then we have those, they have those photos, we have that research ahead of time, and then that can go up on the market to be sold two months in advance if we want. So the organizational tools that we're gonna be building are going to satisfy how difficult the job really is.

And also local sourcing. How can we find what you need from local sources? Enough with Amazon. And how can we start wrapping when we're prepping? So that is what we're gonna use the tech for. And there are thousands of users and members; I don't like to call them users, but that's the technical term

Giana: Right.

Eva: But we call 'em Cubers! There are thousands of Cubers now that just get snatched up.

Giana: Yeah.

Eva: And so it, you know, it's already used as a tool, I'm making it easier now. And also something really important that accounting will like, ‘cause we know if accounting's happy, we’re all happy.

Giana: [laughs] Yes. Well, that sounds super tech-y.

Eva: It's connecting a lot of dots. Unfortunately, I'm not a coder, but I just have to tell them— I have to know what's possible as a non-technical tech founder.

Giana: Yeah.

Eva: I do have to know what's possible. I have to know what's out there so I know what I can ask of them, and understand the system. It can be tricky, and particularly when they hand you the keys and they're like, Okay, all done! You're like, [awkward giggle] Okay, I got it, I think. Where's the button? You know?

Giana: Yeah.

Eva: But it's dynamic and I cannot, cannot, cannot wait to launch. The beta we launch on Monday, so we have— about a hundred Cubers have volunteered to beta test for us. But here's the problem: I don't think they're gonna find much because our Ukrainian team is so, so good. I've been through many developers.

I have found the best.

Jamie: Yeah! Tell us more about that! Obviously you are no stranger to marrying work with a valuable cause and wanting to support people and the world that we live in, so tell us about this team of Ukrainians that you're working with and how they are supporting your exciting launch.

Eva: Yeah, so, when I decided it was time to start all over and to build from the ground up, I knew I needed a very strong team. But I also take the membership fees that people pay very seriously. I want everything to be a Swiss Army knife of uses. So it should go to not only developing the tech that's gonna help their work life, but it should also serve a purpose. And with the Russian-Ukrainian war, I absolutely wanted to support the country, their GNP (their gross national product), and so that's what we did. I think if I hadn't found a satisfactory, I may have moved on, but just by wanting a Ukrainian team for the geopolitical reasons—

Giana: Mm-hmm.

Eva: —I interviewed a lot of people and I found a super incredible agency. Since May I think we've been their only— a boutique agency of 20 people that have been working and designing and creating. I've given them agency. I'm like, Can we just make whoever designed that, the art director and let them make decisions? Because clearly they're so good at it and their heart and soul is in it.

And I have to say, it's given me perspective. I mean, things have been delayed a little bit because sometimes they haven't had electricity. Or, the Stripe consultant, he was drafted and he had to go. People have lost people while I've been on with them. I feel like there's nothing for me to worry about on my end as long as they're okay.

Giana: Mm-hmm.

Eva: If something wasn't quite right, if something got a little behind, it was like, That's okay. My team is safe. My team is warm. Their children are okay. It really made— and I think I might have been that anyway, if something had gone on, but the fact is like, I just have been chill. Like, this will happen when it happens.

Giana: Mm-hmm.

Eva: We've developed an incredible amount of trust, and a professional friendship, and I couldn't be happier with them. I'll stick with them and I'll recommend ‘em. Impro.email. You should go find ‘em.

Giana: I was just gonna ask you who they were! I was like, we should absolutely shout them out, because—

Eva: They are an inspiration to me every single day and they will be to you too. I can give you all that information later, too.

Giana: Yeah! And we'll put 'em in our show notes so that people can look it up.

Eva: Awesome.

Giana: I know that we've talked about this and you've talked about your Ukrainian team and how amazingly impressed you are with them, and so, yeah, we should absolutely be shouting them out as much as possible. Yeah, absolutely.

Thank you so much for just being a thoughtful person. I don't know, like, having a thoughtful person in your sphere, in your world, just somebody that thinks and cares and makes decisions that aren't always based in money, that are based in what is best for you. That's something that Jamie and I are really big on with each other, that's why we work well. It's like, I mean, I was— I just moved to Reno for three months, right? Like, I've been stressing out for the past couple of months, but my business partner is like, Hey, you're going through a lot. And she's picked up so much slack from me in the past, I'm gonna say year, honestly. Ha! But like, it's important to have those people around you because, why the fuck not? Like, fuck. Don't be a dick, guys.

Eva: You know, and this is why I like working— I like being a woman owner of a business because I feel like I can pass down the philosophy that we're all human, that we all make mistakes, that sometimes we cry at work (and you should ‘cause it's good for you) and that I get to develop my own business model of how work gets done.

Giana: Mm-hmm.

Eva: And again, the membership fees - that needs to be taken very seriously. I want them to know that 90% of what they pay is going into the tech. Not to me.

Giana: Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Jamie: Yeah. We're a big fan of money well spent and crying when you have to cry, so I definitely, definitely support those messages.

Giana: Do you guys all wanna cry right now, real quick?

Jamie: Just real quick?

[they laugh]

Eva: I wish I had to! I really need to pee, actually. You know, whenever the camera comes, whenever the Zoom starts, I’m like, Oh!

Jamie: Alright, well we're gonna use that energy because in addition to crying when you need to cry, we are a fan of celebrating good news with a party game.

[air horn sound effect]

Giana: Woo, woo, woo! Party. Party. Party.

Eva: Okay, I like party games.

Jamie: You being here is good news, and we have just heard a lot of great news about ArtCube Nation, where you've been, where you're going, what you do, what your mission is. So, we have put together a friendly competition that we are calling New Year, New BLANK: A New Game. Yay!

Giana: Yay!

Jamie: Would you play with us?

Eva: I would love to.

Jamie: That's fantastic. / Eva: I love games.

Eva: That was directed at me.

Jamie: Yes.

Giana: She knows I'm in.

[laughter]

Jamie: Yes. Awesome. So, before you came on, Giana and I actually had a quick little fight about who would get to be your teammate, Eva. So what we decided is to make a game that gives both of us that opportunity.

Giana: Mm-hmm. Even the playing field. ‘Cause I was like, no way am I giving you Eva, my most valuable player. No way!

Eva: Oh gosh guys, I hope I live up to your expectations.

Giana: Well, you are—  

Eva: It’s end of the day Friday.

Giana: You will, you will. So, we're gonna just take turns presenting our sets of three clues, and we'll take turns also, being your teammate. So that's how that's gonna work. You're gonna be on my team, then you're gonna be on her team. The team with the most points wins... something awesome, like a virtual high five.

[laughter]

Eva: Okay, can do. Can do.

Jamie: Yes! Awesome! Every clue that we are going to offer up starts with the name of the game — New Year, New BLANK — but instead of saying the word blank, we are going to fill that with a clue for an answer, and that answer starts with the word or the syllable new. Here's an example because examples are always helpful.

Eva: Okay!

Jamie: If I were to say, New Year, New: Channel Island that gave its name to an East Coast state with a famous shoreline. Do you have any…?

Eva: Would it be New Jersey?

Giana: Yeah!

Eva: I didn't get it until this second. I was like…

Giana: You got it!

Eva: Okay, I got it. I did get it.

Giana: You totally got it.

Jamie: You got it. And that’s why we both want to be on your team. See?

Giana: Exactly.

Eva: I get it. I get it, I'm a puzzler.

Jamie: Alright, well I'm gonna keep rolling in the host position. So Giana and Eva, you get to play the team round first. Giana, you and I don't know each other's answers or clues that we're bringing to the table, so if I happen to give a clue for an answer that you also brought to the game, just don't say anything to give that away.

Giana: I won't. I will play it off so legit, no one will ever know ‘cause I will be playing it off the most legit.

Jamie: Beautiful. Alright, here we go! Here we go! Number one - New Year, New: Couple on their honeymoon.

Giana: I know this one.

Eva: I know what it is.

Giana: You say it.

Eva: Newlyweds?

Jamie: YES! Well done, that is one point for Giana and Eva. Here is question number two, or clue number two, I should say. New Year, New: Private university in Manhattan with alumni including Bea Arthur, Ai Wei Wei, and Donna Karan.

Eva: I think I know.

Giana: I think I know, too.

Eva: What is the New School?

Jamie: Yes!

Jamie: I like how you just turned it into Jeopardy!. / Eva: Why am I asking it like it’s Jeopardy!?

Eva: I know! It’s because I loved it. Because Alex Trebek. May he rest in peace.

Giana: Yeah, absolutely. RIP.

Jamie: No shade to Jeopardy!, of course.

Eva: Zero. Zero shade. That is a pivotal— that is a good show.

Jamie: Yeah! Yeah, okay, well done. Two for two. Here's number three. Here's number three in the Jamie Clue part of the game. New Year, New: Disney musical movie from 1992, starring Christian Bale, Robert Duvall, and a whole cast of dancing, singing boys.

Giana: Oh! I know. That last bit.

Eva: New… singing… Can you ask me the question one more time? Sorry, I got distracted.

Jamie: Absolutely. New Year, New: Disney musical movie from 1992, starring Christian Bale, Robert Duvall, and a whole cast of dancing, singing boys. And Bill Pullman, I forgot to mention the first time.

Giana: Oh, can't have 1992 without Bill Pullman.

Eva: I know, right? That was the Bill Pullman year, for sure. Giana, you're gonna have to take this.

Giana: I know this one. Newsies!

Eva: That's so impressive. What was I doing in 1992? Oh, I was a junior in college.

Giana: You weren't doing Bill Pullman. I know that much.

Eva: I was not doing Bill Pullman, but I might have been doing Robert Rodriguez at the time. We went to film school together.

Jamie: Nice. / Giana: Yeah.

Eva: But I didn't, he was too intimidating and really cute and he did the local cartoon and I was intimidated and now I wish I'd made out with him. That's okay. Another time.

Giana: Maybe he'll hear this podcast.

Eva: I think he will, I’ll send it to his agency.

Giana: See what he says about it?

Eva: Yeah!

Jamie: They strike me as throuple curious, at minimum.

Giana: Absolutely. Yeah.

Eva: Throuple curious. Yeah, I can help with that.

Giana: Yeah, you can.

Alright, well that was good! Now let's see what happens when we switch up. Eva and Jamie are now on a team. Alright. Clue number one and it's— I love— Anyway. New Year, New: Life under 28 days in existence.

Eva: What is newborn?

Giana: Yeah!

Eva: I'm still saying it— I'm just gonna do it like, I can’t help it.

Giana: No, continue.

Eva: I can't help it.

Giana: I'll be really upset with you if you stop.

Eva: It's my homage to Mr. Trebek. What an angel.

Giana: Alright, here we go. New Year, New: Third concept of inertia, proving there's always an equal and opposite reaction to every action.

Eva: Wait a minute, I do know this.

Giana: Yes, you do.

Eva: I'm gonna have to do— Okay. Ask me the question one more time. I'm stalling.

Giana: You got it. New Year, New: third concept of inertia, proving there's always an equal and opposite reaction to every action.

Eva: I think, what is Newton's law?

Giana: Yeah! Newton's third law!

Eva: Yeah, third law. / Giana: I gave you third, I put third in the question. / Jamie: Well, you put third in the clue.

Giana: I did, I did.

Eva: [makes a buzzer sound] Where's the buzzer?

Jamie: We’ll check with the producers. What did they say? Yes, you get the point.

[Eva laughs]

Giana: Alright, number clue three. Here we go. New Year, New: canine crossbreed of a large black, brown or black and white working dog from Canada with a popular breed often portrayed as snooty divas in a lot of our media.

One more time. New Year, New: canine crossbreed of a large black, brown or black and white working dog from Canada with a popular breed often portrayed as a snooty diva.

Eva: I think I just have to make this word up, okay?

Giana: They did. They sure did. I'll tell you that much.

Eva: I think it's a Newfoundoodle. Is it a Newfoundoodle?

Giana: No, but that is a great name. Very good.

Jamie: Is it just a Newdle, but they spell it E-W? Or is it a Newfoodle?

Giana: Nope, it is a Newfypoo.

Eva: A Newfypoo! / Jamie: A Newfypoo!

Eva: I don’t know how I didn't come up with that on my own. That's really confusing.

Jamie: That does not sound Kennel Club-approved.

Eva: I want to name the next crossbreed of puppies ‘cause that makes zero sense to me. I feel like I need to talk to somebody. Who are the—

Giana: I came across this in my Google searching and Newfypoo just had to make it into this.

Eva: It really did. It was an important question.

Giana: I knew you weren't gonna get it right. I'm sorry that I set you up.

Eva: That's ok.

Jamie: That's alright.

Eva: I don't feel bad about it. I don't. I don't feel bad.

Giana: Yeah. You shouldn't.

[they laugh]

Jamie: No. And you still won!

Eva: I love it though. I could do this all day. Can we do like 17 more? ‘Cause I really like this.

Jamie: Aw, yay! We'll make more, you'll come back and beta test ‘em for us. It'll be great.

Giana: Absolutely

Eva: Cool.

Giana: Well, Eva, would you mind sticking around after for a little, BE a Feminist segment?

Eva: As long as it's all about women, sure.

Giana: Yeah!

[a few ukulele notes]

Giana: The Broadly Entertaining Podcast is about to enter its Expert Era.

Jamie: If season one was about getting to know us, and us getting to know podcasting, season two will be all about confidence in who we are and what we know.

Giana: We'll continue to feature phenomenal women and guests with amazing backgrounds in theatre, comedy, community building, game shows, and more and more.

Jamie: You'll get to meet some of our favorite clients and partners.

Giana: Plus a whole lot more fun, games and feminism, of course.

Jamie: So follow us in your podcast feed and turn on your notifications so you don't miss a beat!

Giana: The Broadly Entertaining Podcast is coming back in March 2023 for a brand new season. You're gonna love it!

Jamie: We are back and ready to celebrate all things good female and inclusive in our BE a Feminist shout outs.

Giana: Woohoo.

[instrumental BE a Feminist jingle - tambourine, whistling, hand-clapped percussion]

Giana: Eva, my darling. Would you want to get us started? Do you have anything fun in the feminist world you want to share? Or maybe even just your thoughts on feminism?

Eva: I think I do have some thoughts on feminism. You know, I hear a lot of — particularly if they're entrepreneurs or thinking about it, I really want women to understand that they're probably right. You know, that their instincts are good, that there's long term thinking and emotion belongs in business as much as it does in your life. And also, that you need to be aware of the relationships that we choose, whether they're business or personal, that your needs are absolutely important. There's no bending when you know that. And to really stick by your values, and no one else's. And just know that you know that you are powerful, when people start to try to take it.

Giana: Mm-hmm. That's right.

Eva: So, lean into that power and hold onto all of it and be successful and be aware. That's all I have to say. Yep.

Giana: Oh yeah.

Jamie: Amen.

Giana: That was beautiful. Amen. I'm gonna stitch in a bunch of crowd applause and whooping and hollering at the end of that. And actually, it's kind of the perfect thing to support what my section of BE a Feminist is because, like I said earlier, I'm here to direct a play and I was thinking about all of these stage managers in my life and how I have had, in 30 years of being on stage, one, I think, and maybe there's some in my childhood that I've forgotten, I'll say that, but one that I know of and remember is a gay man in San Francisco, but every single other was woman or non-binary.

So, I just wanted to shout out all of those fucking stage managers out there, because it is a job that gets no spotlight, hardly any recognition at all. No thanks. If you're in the industry you know, and even some people in the industry don't fully understand, but if you're out of the industry, you have no idea that this job— the show would be complete shit without this person. It would just be absolute shit without the stage manager. So this is just— my BE a Feminist is shouting out all those badass, awesome women stage managers that I have worked with over the years, and couldn't have done it without you.

Jamie: Hell yeah. More applause and hootin’ and hollerin’.

Eva: Absolutely. Whoop, whoop, whoop. Absolutely, yeah. The lateral thinkers who think of everything. You know?

Giana: Yes. Mm-hmm. Yep.

Jamie: Without stage managers, everyone else would fall apart. [Giana laughs]

Eva:. Exactly. And ArtCube actually has a bunch of stage manager jobs come up every once in a while, too, for people. And even theatre doesn't like to throw things away, too.

Giana: Amen.

Eva: And guess who takes care of that? The stage manager.

Giana: Yup.

Eva: Guess who posts all that stuff. The stage manager. So it's really great that you did that, that you're shouting out to them ‘cause I hear ya.

Giana: Yeah. Amen.

Props! Props folks, too, I think. Anyway. Go stage managers. Go all the women. We can go forever.

[laughter]

Jamie: Yeah. I'm gonna take a turn. I'm gonna take a turn with my BE a Feminist this month. It's actually a follow-up to my clitoral-focused offering from our November episode. I want to correct, clarify, expand a little bit on what I offered previously. Couple of things I learned recently listening to a fascinating and enlightening interview with science journalist Rachel E. Gross, who is author of the book, Vagina Obscura: An Anatomical Voyage.

I listened to this interview on an episode of Think, which is one of my most listened to podcasts, and the episode is from June 2022. You can also find it in their list of favorites from last year, and it's called, What Medical Science Didn't Know About Vaginas. And it's just really fucking fascinating! Obviously, I recommend that everybody check out the episode and then buy the book and display it proudly in your homes.

One of the things that I learned in this episode is that the term female genital mutilation is actually outdated, and there are people that prefer that we use the term female genital cutting. because mutilation implies a total lack of agency, and there are people in the world who make the choice for themselves for various reasons and it is not up to our western world to take that away. So always, always ready to change what I call things when people who know better say, “We'd prefer if you called it X.” I will do that.

And I also wrongfully implied that the ratio of the size of the clitoris to the size of the hand, I feel like I implied that the entire clitoris is only the external part, but we were talking all about how there's the internal shaft and it is very similar to the penis, but it is internal not external. So just in case anybody was listening and was like, Jamie, you misspoke about the size of the clitoris, I am here to apologize for it and recommend that you go listen to and learn from people who know better. But you know, whenever I can get on the podcast and talk about the clitoris, apparently, I'm gonna do it!

So, there you go.

Eva: I'll be listening later.

Giana: Yeah! I was gonna say, you know what? I don't know if you knew this, Jamie, but like, even though that was a little bit of a left turn, knowing Eva, totes wasn't. Like, super in the zone for Eva and how she operates and wants to know about and learn about, like, it fit right the fuck in. [laughs]

Jamie: Beautiful.

Eva: It really, it really does. And for my current exploration, too. You know what I mean? So I think that keeping the knowledge and like—  because you can educate others.

Giana: Yeah.

Eva: You know, when you know, and particularly, it's great that we ladies know what our body parts are doing. But if we can openly share that with our gentlemen, or lady, other lady friends who may not know, whomever you're with, then I think that that's a really great thing. Jamie, you're doing it on this podcast, but I should watch the podcast, learn, and talk about it and teach others.

Jamie: Aw… thanks!

Giana: Well, you're just the star podcast guest, Eva. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you so much for spending part of your day with us today and sharing everything that you have to share. And also thank you for inventing ArtCube and for having the impetus to change things and to make this world a better place and better than you left it. Or found it, rather. Both! [Jamie laughs]

So, thank you. Thank you for being here.

Eva: Thank you, guys. I love what you're doing. I love your ethos. I support you 100%, and you know, just keep rocking it. I’d do anything for you guys, you just let me know.

Giana: Same.

Jamie: Thanks, Eva. You’re the bee’s knees!

Giana: Well, have a lovely rest of your day, Eva.

Eva: Okay. You guys, too. Hang in there.

Jamie: Thanks, you too.

Eva: Awesome, love you guys. Bye.

Giana: Love you.

[sustained ukulele tune with a whistled coda]

Giana: And that was our final episode of season one! We have so many exciting guests and topics planned for season two. Speaking of exciting guests, how awesome was Eva from ArtCube Nation?

Jamie: So amazing.

Giana: She’s such an amazing woman, and we are so thankful that she joined us today, and also thank you, listeners, for tuning in.

Jamie: Check the show notes for links and a transcript of this episode. The Broadly Entertaining Podcast is produced and hosted by Giana DeGeiso and Jamie Rosler of Broadly Entertaining.

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[ukulele has started to fade up in the background]

Giana: Happy New Year, Broads! We’ll be back in your feeds at the end of March. Until then, cheers to fun, games, and feminism.

Jamie: We hope to party with you soon!

Giana: Bye!

[ukulele theme music continues for about ten seconds]

Outtake, Eva: I would love an opportunity to say it’s also for jobs and people in the industry. ArtCube is not just diversion. That people who work in the industry should join to get work.